When opening the bank statement report the criteria compo box named bank accounts showing two banks not included in the new chart of account which is “Current Account , Petty Cash Account “ those two accounts mustn’t appear as it is already deleted when creating the new chart of account .

Don't Worry Joe

I'll not leave this solution untill I'll make a complete try for all the options inside it and now I'm working in Demo Data which help me to discover the bugs .

Best Regards

Dear Joe

I don’t think that this is a permanent solution , I think you have two options for that , the first is to add criteria will be selected from compo box which will include the query about the location , the second is to delete this code “WHERE loc_code='DEF'” and make the sorting according to the location
I think you have reform the sql code here in version 2.1.3 , and really it is very bad practice in developing when you force your end user to use particular data like this case I have to maintain a record for a location its code “DEF”
Best Regards

you have to delete this part in sql code

WHERE loc_code='DEF'

I think this is because i delete DIF location from the list of lacation , but it is very strange here in designing , as you have to put a compo box include the locations to be selected and not to be defined by sql query .

there was a problem when generating bill of material listing report and this message came to me

DATABASE ERROR : could not retreive the location name for DEF
sql that failed was : SELECT location_name FROM 3_locations WHERE loc_code='DEF'

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ok you can delay 2.1.3 for a week till I'll finish the demo data for new COA

Best Regards

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One more thing I have to ask, if it is a role that no change in the database in any minor version why you are not going to issue the new version 2.2 include the class type ?
And also what is the new thing that you intend to include in 2.2?
Best regards

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What I suggest you is to ship the empty chart of account as a default and then you can make a demo data for that particular chart of account available in the website , what I intend to do is to feed the demo data with a written problem to make the user understand very well the process of data , once the data entered and the reports generated we can show this results in website
I also suggest to close the demo data in the website and the users see the enquiries and reports only , I mean change the access rights for demouser to enquiries and we can setup a new company with a demo data but demouser will be accountant
So the companies I recommend are :
1.Empty with a new chart of account
2.Demodata with unchanged data and demouser with enquiries access right
3.Demodata with changed data and demouser with accountant access right

If we will apply this and ship an accounting problem as PDF file included with the frontaccounting this will make the solution more popular for accountants as we will give them the key of the solution by showing them the accounting problem and how we can process it to get the final reports through frontaccounting

For the demodata with unchanged data I can provide you by next Friday 05/06/2009 because I need more time to check the process of the solution , so if you can delay version 2.1.3 for more one week it will be better because I’m afraid that maybe there is more bugs must be cleared .

Thanks and Best Regards

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I think that as the balance sheet report is one of the features included in the last version 2.1.2 I recommend to make the changes for the class types and the sublevels and all the bugs in version 2.1.3 , because if we are going to start in version 2.2 we have to include some real changes on this version which is cash flow statement reporting and more analytical reports

what I need to pay your attention to is version 2.1.3 must include the correction of balance sheet and sublevels reporting because those changes should be exist in the old versions of that solution

I hope we can correct the exist outputs in version 2.1.3 and start real changes from version 2.2 to include cash flow statement , I'll supply to you the mathematical formula for it to help you design it and believe me this changes will make a very big difference between frontaccounting and weberp which is similar to your solution and it will be an important milestone in the road of developing frontaccounting   

also from morrow I'll will concentrate in feeding a demo data in the current version with the new developed chart of accounts to include it in the new 2.1.3


Best Regards

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you are right , and maybe we can use it in the future

for that minor manual correction I think that it deserve

actually I didn't understand what you will do for the release 2.1.3 , do you mean that all these changes related to the class type field and sublevel reporting will be in the next minor version 2.1.3 ?

in the other hand I recommend to include the class type field and sublevel reporting in version 2.1.3 and i hope we can start concentrate in the output strengthen by adding cash flow statement , then ABC costing methods , then give the different option to the user to chose from costing methods FIFO or LIFO or Average Method
later on we can also concentrate in manufacturing to get into depth of modern cost accounting , then we have to design our HRM , CRM , SCM

a lot of things we are dreaming with and we hope more success for this solution 

Best regards

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Great I do agree with you in this five class types , I think it will give you more programmable capabilities to control the output .

for class type no. 5 make it expense not cost

Best regards

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I had a look to version 2.2 and I had a look in the new field or compobox that you add , and let me just share with you my small knowledge about the financial solutions .
I found this field that you add little bit strange and will not give the user the flexibility expected and more confusion will be for sure , I know that you as a developer you need to reach to your target which is in our case change the sign of liabilities and capital and the profit and loss but also if we have to achieve our goal we have use a logical way

actually I'm not familiar with php and mysql , but I have some knowledge in SQL server before 8 years and now I'm working as financial controller so from my experience I can tell you that the best way is to include a list field consists of three options with a title of "Class Type"
1- Assets
2- Liabilities
3- Owners Equities

the profit and loss will be positive for profit and negative for loss as usual and will be programmed to be added after the classes with a type of owners equities

the formula of report must be " Assets = Liabilities + Owner Equity (Capital) + Net Profit - Net loss "

if you will apply what I explain you will get standard balance sheet that there is no two accountants will disagree about .

in the future and as an effort to enrich the accounting practise using FrontAccounting , our forum in [url]www.infotechaccountants.com/forums[url/] , which include more than 56000 membership of Arab accountants and professors will help in designing the cash flow statement in the FrontAccounting according to international financial reporting standards and international accounting standards as a gift to FrontAccounting beside our gift of translating FrontAccounting into Arabic

for the future as God will and for the purposes of cash flow statement you will need to add more fields in classes and groups and accounts to obtain the cash flow statement , we will discuss this later which we hope to be included in version 3 series .

more over this also I think FrontAccounting need to attract more experts in financial accounting and auditing to give the correct advice about the critical scientific issues related to the outputs of FrontAccounting


Thank you Joe

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thank you Joe , really you are doing your best

but still this problem of reversed sign in balance sheet , i think this problem is easy to solve , it is a matter of changing sign "I'm not developer but i guess", if you can solve this in the current version and update the download file in sourceforge with all the changes done we will appreciate this .

thanks again to you

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am I missing something ? , the change log file in sourceforge.net not include any update after 30.04.2009

thank you for the sublevel presentation

did you upload the new updated file to sourcefoge.net ?

what about the minus sign in the side of capital and liabilities which must be reversed and the profit and loss amount in balance sheet must be reversed as well .

thank you for your great efforts

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Dear Joe

Try to review the post #1 in this topic and try to view the reports as the links was not correct , I update this and create a folder for testing reports

thanks

joe wrote:

I don't understand why we can present the Excel export on the demo site (with Arabic Language) and you cannot. BTW the link you gave was broken.
Please, does anyone in the community have an explanation to this?

/Joe

Thank you Joe

you have to be patient little bit , all what I meant by adding those topics is to make the FrontAccounting the best free accounting solution .
I fixed the demo in the site and you can try it in http://infotechaccountants.com/fatraining , you will fine Arabic Template Ver. 212 company and try to export the chart of accounts to excel file

why this problem happen ? , we all have to answer this question for the potential new users of FrontAccounting

By the way I fixed the link , I think your developer know very well the link of Spreadsheet_Excel_Writer Package .

Thanks

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joe wrote:

Regarding the sign presentation, this is very different in various countries. Therefore we have fixed this in the next release, 2.2, that you can choose for yourself how the class should be presented in BS and PL statements.


/Joe

Thank you Joe , but the balance sheet or income statement will not differ from one country to another , it must be the same shape because those reports internationally applied according to international accounting standards and international financial reporting standard
Please check
IAS No.1

Best Regards

joe wrote:

Hello,
I don't see the problem here. When retrieving the SQL it will only get the appropriate date. F.i. a Balance
sheet will only show accounts that are belonging to a group that are belonging to a class that are belonging to a balance sheet.

/Joe

great , but what about inside balance sheet , you have to complete the belonging journey that you start by adding that it might be belonging to assets side or that it might be belonging to capital and liabilities side !!

Today when I'm working in FrontAccounting I realized that the questions asked when I'm creating new class is not enough to know more details about the classes of accounts
first of all the only question available you can find in the section of accounts classes which asking you is this class belong to balance sheet of profit and loss , normally we are answering this question by yes for assets and liabilities and owner's equity or capital and no for revenues and expenses , but in case I change the sequence of the classes and create it like this
1- assets
2- expenses
3- revenues
4- liabilities
the question here do the generated reports will be in a good shape ?

I don't think so , because for the developing purposes of the financial solutions the developer when designing the solution must take care about the needs related to the balance sheet and income statement and cash flow statement

I can assure that the reports depend on a fixed data which included in the original chart of accounts , I mean when they designed the queries they knew that the class of assets must be no. 1 and the class of liabilities must be 2 etc.

so to improve this we have to mention another question like this
is this class related to assets or liabilities or capital ? this will serve the balance sheet report
and if we intend to design cash flow statement we have to ask more questions etc.

and also the developers must take care about the flexibility of the solution and I don't think that every time any user will change the chart of accounts you will release new version of FrontAccounting !!

Best regards

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more over the above mentioned information , in the part of owner's equity the "calculated return" which it must be named "Net Income " or " Net Profit or Loss " must be in our case here negative figure not positive , I thing all the signs of section of owner's equity must be reversed

when I designed the hierarchy chart of account which is consists of 3 levels I meant to test how is the shape of the output in balance sheet and income statement , I entered few transaction to test how it will be and found its shape need to be revised

first of all you can view the balance sheet from this link press Here
and you can view the income statement from this link press Here

in balance sheet we are all follow this formula : assets = owner equity + liabilities , this mean that the sign in the side of assets must be positive and the sign of all the figures in the side of owner equity and liabilities must be positive too , in our case here the side of assets positive and the side of capital and liabilities is negative

second thing here is the hierarchy query here not retrieve all the levels created through the accounts groups section , and if you have a look you will find that the sql query just obtain the top level but it must obtain all the levels as like this

L1-Assets
L2-Current Assets
L3-Account Name

but in the balance sheet report and profit and loss report you are doing like this

L1-Assets
L3-Account Name

so for me as an end user that need to read the detailed and good classified financial reports when I'm reading some kind of reports like what it is now I'll be not satisfied at all

also the name of profit and loss not according to the modern practice of accounting and not according to the international financial reporting standards , so you have to change it to Income Statement

Thank you in advance

When I start a new company the first journal entry start with no. 18 , and for the purpose of auditing the journal entry must start with 1 , I think there is something in php coding related to the journal entry numbering

can you check please ?

thanks in advance

If I create a general ledger transaction it is naturally that the transaction must be printed , when I'm trying to get the general ledger transaction print out from Setup-Maintenance-View or Print Transactions it is not response

can anybody check that error ?

Thanks in advance

I think the only one can solve this problem the developer of Spreadsheet_Excel_Writer in Pear website and the only one can describe it you Joe because you are the developer of frontaccounting , so the problem description from my side as an Arab user is failing in sending the data to excel when selecting Arabic language from preferences of the user , but when selecting English language from the preferences of user it will export fine but if the accounts names in Arabic it will make coding display problem and the characters will be like this ????? 
you can open a ticket here to the developer of Spreadsheet_Excel_Writer
http://pear.php.net/package/Spreadsheet_Excel_Writer
Once this one will be solved please you can update the Spreadsheet_Excel_Writer

Best regards