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Topic: quick entries question

Hi,

I am trying to make a quick entry for a journal entry with a percentage calculation, but it's not calculating the values I want.

By way of example, in the journal entry, I want to credit one account for 108.25.  the corresponding debits should be 5.00 for tax, 3.25 for service fees, and 100.00 goes into an asset account. 

I set up a quick journal entry and added the following quick entry lines:

1. % amount of base, reduce base: 3.25%
2. Taxes included, reduce base: choose GST(5%)
3. remainder: into my asset account

Now when I go to make a journal entry, enter 108.25 into the quick entry line and press go, I get:

3.52 for service fees
4.99 for tax
99.74 into the asset account

or if I swap the percentage and tax lines:

5.15 for tax
3.35 for service fees
99.75 into the asset account

It seems the tax is calculated from the remainder value, but the percentage is not.  Is there a way to get it to work like I want, preferably without putting in a dummy tax account?

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  • From: Singapore, India, Chennai
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Re: quick entries question

@joe: nice one to correct or add on with a flag in the config for such base value calculations.

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3 Reply by LlndPrkr (edited by LlndPrkr 08/25/2015 07:50:34 pm)

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Re: quick entries question

This is a classic issue with calculations using percents.  The very first thing to work out and be very clear on is "PERCENT OF WHAT?"

The results that apmuthu is getting are because he is using the percent values that apply to the $100 base amount to calculate a result from the TOTAL amount.  In short: if the journal entries are calculated on the total amount, he needs to adjust the percentages to apply to the total amount of $108.25.

Here's how it's done:

We know that we expect $3.50 in sales tax from every $108.25 invoiced.  Therefore...
Sales Tax: $3.50/$108.25 = 3.0023%  THIS IS THE PERCENT TO APPLY TO THE TOTAL TO GET 3.5% of the base.

3.5% of $100 = 3.0023% of $108.25

Similarly...

Service Charge: $5.00/$108.25 = 4.6189%

So that $108.25 * 4.6189% = $5.00

You can see that this is nothing more than a simple algebra problem where the equation is $100 * 5% = $108.25 * X
Solving for X gives:
X = ($100 * 5%) / $108.25
X = $5/$108.25
X = .041689  [4.17%]

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  • joe
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Re: quick entries question

Thanks LindPrKr!

You are right. This is a classical example. You have an amount where tax is included. How many percent to reduce to get the correct tax value. Maybe a good idea to put this on the Wiki.
@apmuthu, will you please?

Joe

  • From: Singapore, India, Chennai
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Re: quick entries question

Wiki-ed it under Workarounds in the Quick Entries page.

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  • joe
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Re: quick entries question

Thanks apmuthu. As always you are my man!;)

Joe