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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fixed Assets]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks very much @mugao-em, </p><p>I think this answers my question. I think you are right. Rate is annualized regardless wether you select Yearly or Monthly. Now that I have fiddled around more I think that&#039;s what it means </p><p>So for <strong>Depreciation starts</strong> actually start 1 period after <strong>Depreciation starts</strong> are kinda confusing, but I get it now. Maybe for future revision of FA we can do better /w choosing the right word as to not potentially introduce more ambiguity</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[aleifuuwork]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-08-08T08:31:04Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fixed Assets]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I am still learning the ropes but i can give my 2 cents.<br />1. Depreciation rate is annual, irrespective of wheather you select to depreciate Yearly or Monthly. In your case, the rate is 50% (2 years)<br />2. Depreciation starts 1 period after the &quot;Depreciation Starts&quot; Date. so for me, I always put the last date of the period before when i want the asset to start depreciating. e.g if i&nbsp; want depreciation to start in January 2018, i put &quot;Depreciation Starts&quot;=31-Dec-2017</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mugao-em]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-08-08T05:35:20Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fixed Assets]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Ok. After fiddling aroud a bit I think I understand more how to use Depreciation features on FA ... </p><p>However, there are 2 things that still confused me </p><p>1. The correct rate to use for straight line<br />Example I want to deprecate item &quot;A&quot; of value 1,200,000 for example for 2 years ( 1,200,000 / 24 = 50,000 each month ).<br />Now 50,000 / 1,200,000 is about 4.167% or 4.2% in FA&#039;s straight line </p><p>If I enter 4.2% in straight line method and process depreciation for &quot;A&quot;, how come the depreciation value is 4,200 ? while I should be expecting 50,000 each month ?</p><br /><p>2. How does FA decides when it starts to depreciate ? <br />On Fixed Asset item definition, you are provided field &quot;Depreciation Starts&quot; and I enter 1/1/2018.<br />And on purchase this particular Fixed Asset dated on 1/1/2018</p><p>When you want to start Process Depreciation however, the &quot;Starting From Month&quot; is February 2018 or March 2018 in some cases, but never on January 2018 </p><p>Thanks<br />I don&#039;t think wiki covers this</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[aleifuuwork]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-08-08T05:04:43Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fixed Assets]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>In Setup - &gt;System and General GL Setup you can set your depreciation period - monthly/yearly.</p><p>Then in Fixed Asets -&gt; Fixed Assets set your depreciation rate&nbsp; for an item for say 20% (5 years)</p><p>All explained <a href="https://frontaccounting.com/fawiki/index.php?n=Help.FixedAssets"> in the wiki</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[poncho1234]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-08-07T16:26:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fixed Assets]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys, I&#039;m using FA2.4.3 and at the moment I&#039;m trying / studying the Fixed Asset feature in its relation to Depreciation etc </p><p>I can add/deprecate fine, it&#039;s not a problem. What seems to be a problem is the following</p><p>1. That when you input fixed asset purchase, say, on 3-01-2018 ... The depreciation only started 2 months later ( March 2018 onward ). Is there a way to set this to deprecate 1 month after ?<br />2. And what more alarming is that, you can ONLY deprecate for the remaining 10 months until December 2018. The item that I want to deprecate has probably 10 years lifecycle, like a production machine </p><p>Is this currently the limitation of using FA, or is there a setting that I need to adjust in order to make multi-Financial year depreciation ? I don&#039;t think 2.4.4 address this already, does it ?</p><p>At the moment, the only way to address multi-year depreciation is by entering manually on Journal Entry just like old days /w Excel ... </p><p>Thanks Guys,</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[aleifuuwork]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-08-07T07:11:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fixed Assets]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>In your previous post you listed the <a href="https://github.com/FrontAccountingERP/FA/commit/2e95a5672e4cabeaba603da7ac1105c3acb865ea">commit</a> that addressed the issue. Just follow it or use the <a href="https://frontaccounting.com/punbb/viewtopic.php?pid=29731#p29731">entire set of changes</a> after the FA 2.4.3 release to overwrite them.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[apmuthu]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-02-05T06:55:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fixed Assets]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>apmuthu wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>This should not be done. A stock item is not a fixed asset item. We are now using a different function for the checks here: <strong>check_db_has_depreciable_fixed_assets()</strong></p></blockquote></div><p>Where should I change to use :<br />check_db_has_depreciable_fixed_assets</p><p>Since I&#039;m a new beginner. It&#039;s too complicated for me, please explain more. Like, which file, and row number. <img src="https://frontaccounting.com/punbb/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Regards,<br />Agus Widi</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[aguspajak]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-02-04T07:16:14Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fixed Assets]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>This should not be done. A stock item is not a fixed asset item. We are now using a different function for the checks here: <strong>check_db_has_depreciable_fixed_assets()</strong></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[apmuthu]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-02-04T03:32:19Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fixed Assets]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p><p>Dear Joe and Apmuthu.</p><p>Thanks for the the update below:<br />https://github.com/FrontAccountingERP/FA/commit/2e95a5672e4cabeaba603da7ac1105c3acb865ea</p><br /><p>I follow and tested the script.&nbsp; <br />The Process Depreciation is working, I&#039;m using the original file of &quot;data_checks.inc&quot;.<br />Now I go to Manage &gt; Fixed Assets.<br />Usually I can select Fixed Asset that I have inputed before (I have several).<br />But Now I cannot see this : ---&gt; Select an item: (which is usually placed on top). <br />So it makes me cannot modify an Fixed Asset.</p><p>Fortunately, I did following (AGAIN):</p><p>I&#039;ve looking for the source code : &#039;data_checks.inc&#039;</p><p>ON line 251, I &#039;ve found&nbsp; this code :<br />function db_has_stock_items()<br />{<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; return check_empty_result(&quot;SELECT COUNT(*) FROM &quot;.TB_PREF.&quot;stock_master WHERE mb_flag!=&#039;F&#039;&quot;);<br />}</p><br /><p>I changed it to :</p><p>function db_has_stock_items()<br />{<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; return check_empty_result(&quot;SELECT COUNT(*) FROM &quot;.TB_PREF.&quot;stock_master WHERE mb_flag=&#039;F&#039;&quot;);<br />}</p><br /><p>Now, I can manage Fixed Asset. <br />I can select Fixed Asset and edit them.</p><p>I guess this problem related to &quot;Process Depreciation&quot; problem that I have submitted before.</p><br /><p>Regards,<br />Agus Widi</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[aguspajak]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-02-04T03:14:46Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fixed Assets]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>This has been <a href="https://github.com/FrontAccountingERP/FA/commit/2e95a5672e4cabeaba603da7ac1105c3acb865ea">committed</a> to 2.4 official repo.</p><p>/Joe</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[joe]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-02-03T21:46:03Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Will fix it later today.</p><p>Joe</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2018-02-03T16:18:21Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fixed Assets]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>@joe: Can commit <a href="http://post%2012%20herein">post 12 herein</a>.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[apmuthu]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-02-03T15:57:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fixed Assets]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hello Dear Apmuthu. <br />I guess you mean is : process_depreciation.php. <em>(Yes, stands corrected now. Thanks).</em></p><p>BTW. I follow your suggestion. It works.<br />I think this is the best update so far. <br />Thank you.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[aguspajak]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-02-03T14:39:04Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fixed Assets]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It is there - see <a href="https://github.com/FrontAccountingERP/FA/blob/master/includes/data_checks.inc">this link</a> - maybe you are using some version other than v2.4.3+.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[apmuthu]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-01-12T04:41:58Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fixed Assets]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hello, <br />the file data_checks.inc is not in the includes folder. Please where is it located. or am i the one getting the location wrong. thanks<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>apmuthu wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The normal stock items are not Fixed Assets and no such change is needed.</p><p>You need to look at the <strong>function <a href="https://github.com/FrontAccountingERP/FA/blob/master/includes/data_checks.inc#L348">db_has_depreciable_fixed_assets()</a></strong> in the same file - <strong>includes/data_checks.inc</strong>. You probably need to set the fixed asset as depreciable and choose what method of depreciation you want and make sure you have completed the year for it to be able to process depreciation.</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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			<updated>2018-01-11T10:05:45Z</updated>
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