I have just had a look at the new demo.  http://www.faplanet.pl/demo

This looks very like PhreeBooks now !!!  smile

Check out their demo  (demo, demouser) -  http://www.phreebooks.com/pb-demo/index.php

@Bidiman

Bidiman wrote - "Meanwhile i'm evaluating the solution to go for odoo (openerp) it seems a super followed project and all setup for belgium"

Have you taken a look at Tryton - a 2008 fork of OpenERP (I have nothing to do with them BTW)
http://www.tryton.org/

Tryton has a client - server setup, however, the clients are available configured in some Linux distro's e.g. Puppy Linux, Arch Linux, Debian, Fedora and possibly Ubuntu.

Interesting:
http://openerphell.blogspot.co.uk/2010/10/tryton-vs-openerp-which-is-best-better.html

I only mention this as I came across something talking about Tryton being Belgium friendly - I think that one of the main devs is Belgian.

Personally, I favour FrontAccounting, WebERP and PhreeBooks for their relative simplicity.

Can Front Accounting receive payments in currencies other than the 'base' (or 'home') currency?

The forum posts (admittedly posted some years ago) seem to suggest that, although a payment can be accepted and booked in a foreign currency (set at Customer/Vendor level), it is automatically changed and stored in the 'base' currency.

This suggests that it isn't possible to maintain any foreign currency bank accounts in FA - is that true?

Do you have any idea how many instances of Front Accounting are being used in production (used in business)?
Even a rough estimate would be interesting.

@swheeler
Which Shopping Cart is favoured as an order entry front-end?
Is this to achieve an easy path for SO -> PO? or
To enter customer details at same time as order details? or
Drop-ship functionality?

@mkozielski
Thank you for pointing me to that page - how could I have missed that. IMHO I feel that the equiv PB page is 'slicker'. However FA 'feels' faster.
Perhaps I did see it in the demo, but am beginning to suffer ERP exhaustion!

@elax
I think that you are right - I feel another install coming on ( is there a pill for this? smile)

@apmuthu
Excellent links - thank you.
I am particularly impressed by the fact that of the 20-30 extensions in the GitHub Repo, all have received some love in the last 6 months.

RE: xtronics - I think that he does have a point, although his summary was written around 2008/9. Is it still the case that a customer has to be created BEFORE (as opposed to 'at the same time' as) an order can be entered against them - and it not being a quick task?

@rschwendeman
You write "I recently switched over from Phreebooks to Front accounting which is years ahead".

I am currently evaluating Front Acounting having come from a background of PhreeBooks.
Where are the areas that you have found Front Accounting to be more suited to your needs than PhreeBooks?

I am hoping to make a final decision about our choice of ERP soon as I am getting ERP exhaustion.

@Elax
I realise that I didn't cover a query of yours in my response above.


Rascal wrote:
    +ves to PhreeBooks
    - the default transaction view is a 'one page layout'   ...    one transaction = 1 line (easy, informational view)
Elax wrote:
     Not sure I understand
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I am referring to the way that PB, for example,  displays all Invoiced orders on one page. It also applies to Sales Orders and Purchase Orders.  In fact it is THE display method throught PB.

Anybody interested should follow this path:
http://www.phreebooks.com/pb-demo (demo, demouser)
CUSTOMERS > Sales/Invoice Manager, or Sales Order Manager, or Customer Manager   ...   the layout is the same, and
VENDORS > Vendor Manager, or Purchase Order Manager, or Purchase/Receive Inventory Manager    ...   etc etc

@Elax
Thank you for taking my query seriously and taking the time to contribute such a comprehensive reply.

I am, as I mentioned, much more familiar with PB due to having installed it and tested it extensively for a number of months. Of course, I am now wondering whether I am capable of looking at FA objectively as my frame of reference is so firmly set in PB.

One of your final comments is very astute -  "something missing ...  trying to find something". I am bothered by the lack of a strong community.

My interest in FA is genuine, however, technically I have liked PB, I don't deny it. I was also wow'ed by some of the features of Dolibarr - not least by it's clever 'Foundation' structure.

You mention extensions/modules - textcart and regexp. Is there a list of current extensions/modules somewhere?

Thank you for you advice - it is good advice.
edit - I meant to ask you, how is your planned "tag system" going to work?



@mkozielski
Do you perhaps mean 'warehouses' that carry the stock.
You are right, I remember now that this is a strength of FA and has only recently been added to PB.
I will add this to my list above. Thank you.



@swheeler
Thank you for your considered response.

First off, the easy bit. Sourceforge ENTERPRISE - 7th March2013 - "SourceForge is pleased to announce our new Enterprise Directory – a sub-section of our site focused specifically on Enterprise projects. These are the projects that are geared specifically for use within a company. This might include areas such as project management, office suites, or customer relationship management (CRM) software. "
So, one has to apply to communityteam@sourceforge.net and convince them that your project is Enterprise ready.
What EXACTLY the requirements are, I couldn't find.

There is no doubt that FA has a larger and more active community and the FA project is better known. Is this because it is older or because it is more closely related to WebERP, or 'better' or more easily modified? I don't know.

You mention your "20+ integrations" - is there a list somewhere of FA integrations?

Thank you for your response.

@apmuthu
Thank you for your quick response.


I have had a look at the three pages that you have pointed me to and my thoughts are as follows:

1) Old Comparision 2008 - I have previously come across this and there is no real comparison of features with FA.

2) Active Comparision - Really, really poor. Most of the info on PB is totally inaccurate and ... is FA only available as an SaaS solution ??? I think not.

3) Multi Accounting Web Software comparision - very cursory marketing blurb. No comps. SEO fodder IMHO.

Here is a fourth:
http://wiki.xtronics.com/index.php/Linux_accounting   ...   (he is pro-PB, but AFAIK not using it)

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Ok, so I will start with what I know (bearing in mind I am not too famililar with FA. I know PB much better). I am focussing on DIFFERENCES (I have 'bent' this rule for MULTI-CURRENCY as it can be SO important to anyone importing/exporting):

+ves to PhreeBooks Accounting:
- Sourceforge:  'Score'= 4.6,  490 weekly downloads
- the default transaction view is a 'one page layout'   ...    one transaction = 1 line (easy, informational view)
- OpenCart ($20) and ZenCart (FOC) connectors  ...   these are FULL integrations, not just order download. PB 'controls' the cart & listings.
- easy to convert a SO to a PO - 'one click'
- has a 'drop ship' option in Order Entry screen   ... this means that the name/address isn't auto added to the list of 'branches' but still retained in d/base. This also means that ones list of 'customers' doesn't become over-long and unmanageable (if set-up correctly)
- a number of full integrations with couriers and payment gateways   ...   USPS, Fedex, Authorise.net, FirstData, Elevon, Linkpoint, Paypal
- moved away from WebERP (roots) layout totally and adopted a more ZenCart layout (GUI)
- faster order entry (am I right)?
- led by one man (primary dev = Dave Premo) with a vision (perhaps a +ve and a -ve)
- one page entry for BOTH new customer details AND order details (i.e. a 1-step process and not a 2-step process)
- PB feels 'slicker', more modern looking (is this the JavaScript?)
- MULTI-CURRENCY =  limited. Currency set at SO/PO level. Can issue invoices/PO's in MC but cannot accept/make payments in anything but 'home' currency. This effectively means that any foreign currency bank account setup in GL tracks the balance in your 'base' currency.

+ves to Front Accounting:
- Sourceforge:  'Score'= 4.4,  550 weekly downloads
- more vibrant community and I assume more active deployments
- nice (powerfiul) P&L and Balance Sheet visibility options
- nicer looking reports
- commercial interests providing and supporting commercial modules
- genuinely 'Open Source' in spirit
- ability to have categories in inventory and reports e.g. Ford Spares / Chrysler Spares / Fiat Spares etc etc
- Wiki
- multi-warehouse/branch functionality more mature
- 20-30+ actively maintained extensions (PB has many excellent extensions/modules also, but few maintained by the wider community)
- FA feels 'faster' to me
- MULTI-CURRENCY = Currency set at Customer/Vendor level. Apparently FA can maintain multiple Foreign Currency Bank Accounts.
- Consolidated accounts - correct?
-??

... in all honesty I think that I currently prefer PB,  BUT I confess relative ignorance about the features of FA.

Can you add to the above list?     (these are 'stand-out' features that a user will really notice).

I am new to Front Accounting.

I have been in the process of evaluating MySQL ERP accounting packages for our small start-up business.

I have looked at Dolibarr, WebERP and Phreebooks so far. aDampiere, OpenBravo, OpenERP/Tryton are too big for us.

I can't use Dolibarr as the Sales Tax reporting is insufficiently detailed (and not double-entry). I have had a good look at Phreebooks and in general like it, although the community seems pretty thin. I prefer the GUI of Front Accounting over that of WebERP.

So now to my question.

How is Front Accounting better than PhreeBooks (putting to one side the community issue)?