Aha, I see that now.  There isn't any city tax in Florida, just county and state, as you have said.  Sorry for the confusion.

No problem.

That shows the simplicity of the osCommerce Tax groups.

When a customer enters their state as Florida, they are then presented with a State Pulldown list that includes ALL the tax groups within Florida and the descriptive name helps THEM pick the right one, after all they know where they live and what tax rates the are subject to.

It was a perfect solution for eCommerce 10 years ago.

Tom

There are 22 counties in Florida, so I only have 22 different sales tax zones that I need to worry about.

Sales tax is ONLY calculated on a COUNTY basis.

I think you like to make things overly complex.

Tom

If I have 22 tax rates in osc and FA and like I said above I update them every year as I get noticed from DOR, why would you think I am doing it wrong?

Because there are a lot more Florida tax jurisdictions than 22.   If you have less than 100 customers or so around the state, then 22 could be the right number.    Florida DOR has a tool that you could plug in some customer addresses and see if you get the same rate as FA/OSC.

Isn't it time govts stopped interfering with businesses?
Americans should not vote for such reps who try to bully businesses.

I think that the Sales Tax should be collected at the point of SALE (Not Delivery)

So if my state encourages business then IT should reap the benefits.

It also makes it much simpler for the businesses to collect and pay.

Ya know Florida expects it's citizens to report and pay sales tax on any untaxed mail orders.

Tom

@tom: Updated osc_orders extension in GitHub FA24extensions repo.

I will be coming out with a new version that makes sure the Short Name of a debtor_master record is unique and the Branch Name of a custome_branch is also unique for osC imports

Tom

If you only have 22 tax rates for Florida, you might not be collecting all the sales tax that is required.   Florida, like Colorado, is a destination-based state.  I am not certain what the Florida requirements are,  but this usually means that, for orders placed via the internet/mail by a customer within Florida from a Florida vendor, the vendor must collect a sales tax rate applicable at the buyer's address (including any applicable local sales taxes).

Before 2019, Colorado vendors selling within Colorado usually needed to charge 2.9% for any sale outside the physical location.   This was very easy.   After 2019, there are now 733 local tax districts to deal with.   FA and OSC do not natively support tax by destination address and county/city/zip code are insufficient to determine the applicable tax rate.

You are right that the small business is usually exempt from these new out-of-state rules.  Thus you can sell into Colorado without having to follow its in-state rules.

If I have 22 tax rates in osc and FA and like I said above I update them every year as I get noticed from DOR, why would you think I am doing it wrong?

I collect and pay at the tax rate of the delivery location of each Florida order, I have done so for almost 20 years.

Tom

The following make for good reading:

https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/sales-tax-compliance/article/12402391/the-future-of-the-online-sales-tax-part-1
https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/sales-tax-compliance/article/12402389/the-future-of-the-online-sales-tax-part-2
https://www.avalara.com/taxrates/en/blog/2014/07/future-internet-sales-tax-internet-tax-freedom.html
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2018/07/16/the-history-and-future-of-the-retail-sales-tax/
Sales Tax base has been shrinking and the ST Rate has been increasing!

Before 2019, Colorado vendors selling within Colorado usually needed to charge 2.9% for any sale outside the physical location.   This was very easy.   After 2019, there are now 733 local tax districts to deal with.   FA and OSC do not natively support tax by destination address and county/city/zip code are insufficient to determine the applicable tax rate.

You are right that the small business is usually exempt from these new out-of-state rules.  Thus you can sell into Colorado without having to follow its in-state rules.

COnsider these facts:

1 - It does not appear that very many people would are using the osc_orders addon
2 - osCommerce is pretty old, so anyone having $100k in sales would likely not be using it

A taco stand is not likely to use osC, osC is a web store, having 200 transactions within a 10 mile radius of a given *remote* location is a long shot

I pay all the sales tax I am bound to pay in Florida, as a PERSON I can not be required to follow all the tax laws of all 50 states, it is an unnecessary burden upon me.

There is a huge difference between me and Wayfair and most people using osCommerce (or any Free e-commerce solution) are likely not big enough to be included.

I wonder what they are smoking on Colorado to think they can enforce sales tax laws like that on individuals. (you said all Deliveries)

Tom

But examine the states that have implemented the change.   In many states (e.g. Utah, South Dakota), simply operating a business within the state with sales over $100k or 200 separate transactions is sufficient to create the nexus.     For example, if you have a taco stand and if you make any deliveries, you are subject to the new tax scheme.

In Colorado, this could be 10 different districts within 10 miles.  Prior to 2019, this was a uniform 2.9%.   Instate retailers paid sales tax and out-of-state purchases were subject to use tax, which almost no one ever paid.   This was unfair to the brick-and-mortar businesses that paid much more.   So now Colorado wants all deliveries (in-state and out-of-state) to pay the same as brick-and-mortar, which means there are 733 tax districts to worry about when making any delivery.

Some other states just upped the uniform tax rate instead of imposing the same brick and mortar tax requirements.  Florida wanted to just define the nexus as deliveries only.     I am no legal expert, but brick-and-mortar business will still be unhappy if they have to pay sales tax of 9% on any sale regardless of volume and everyone else who delivers into their tax zone pays a lower rate.

Conducts 200 or more separate retail sales of tangible personal property or taxable services for delivery in Florida; or
Conducts any number of retail sales of tangible personal property or taxable services for delivery in Florida in an amount exceeding $100,000

200 sales in a specific state or $100k per year

All these sales tax reforms have exclusions for smaller businesses

Anyone bigger won't be using osCommerce for sure

tom